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7 years 11 months ago #325 by Frank
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Traffic getting a lot worse :evil:

If parking on the street is encouraged, then safety of drivers is endangered unless one-way is implemented

TD is both a cut-through and car-park now
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8 years 2 months ago #320 by Frank
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There's also a good article in the times today, about having no central lines to slow traffic down and less distractions like parked cars and signals

The village centre needs more yellow lines, the car park is hardly used. The new alleyway makes perfect sense but only if cars use the car-park not left on street
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #307 by td_pete
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I think most of your questions have been answered and from the regularity of tickets I've seen on the double yellows at the end of my road there is an active parking warden somewhere.

Indeed driving on kerbs is illegal and I too get alarmed when I find a car driving at me whilst walking on the pavement, something that happened to me recently outside the dentists on station road. This is all a symptom of a much wider issue with parking, not only due to the increase in car ownership, the increase in population (London is predicted to grow by 1.5m over the next 10-15 years) but cars are getting bigger. A topic I'm sure Craig has better knowledge? But there is a noticeable increase in commuter traffic which I'm sure by 2030 when Crossrail2 potentially opens, may see a sizable increase in commuter traffic to the area.

Also as an aside you may not be aware, but there is currently a bill going through the commons making it illegal to park on kerbs and verges. An issue that Thames Ditton suffers not least where I live on Riversdale Road (which currently looks like a set from a WW1 movie), but more an issue for roads such as Queens Road where there are no other options.

I think the whole issue of parking and traffic management in Thames Ditton will need some radical thought, which will inevitably put some noses out of joint but its going to have to happen at some point. Personally as a reformed petrol head I would like to see fewer cars and people going back to using there legs but maybe that's a bit too radical for TD!
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8 years 5 months ago #281 by Frank
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15 mph, I would be happy with throughout village.

The parking bays on the high street are working well, I suggest Thames ditto not office workers bays in Watts Road......like the high street, when no one parked around pm it's a delight to drive back in
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8 years 5 months ago - 8 years 5 months ago #280 by craigvmax
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Last night without looking at my speedo I went around that bend by the Swan about as quickly as I felt comfortable, I was in a very long and wide car at the time, a quick glimpse of the speedo as the road straightened, 15mph.
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8 years 5 months ago #277 by Frank
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I agree and in fact I quite like the speed signs on Ham Common with a smiley or angry face. The corner of the swan is bad, especially after a drink!

People envitably speed up after bumps, i have also seen 20mph reminders just after bumps - Craig is right, sedate is what is required here.

The high street should be 10mph or even 5mph
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8 years 5 months ago - 8 years 5 months ago #276 by craigvmax
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I think sometimes you don't 'see' the things you pass very routinely, I'd always thought it should be a 20 and always drive accordingly as I do for any location I'm in. Yes there are rules and laws which we should adhere to of course but a larger awareness of your surroundings is sometimes more important. It's something we teach on our drive courses for which we use Police pursuit drivers.

Where there are lots of concealed entrances, driveways, schools etc such as in TD then often an even lower speed is needed. 20mph is probably too fast to go around the bend on the corner of Summer Road behind the Swan for example yet frequently people come around there way quicker than that and stray across into the other lane or clip the kerb.

I have to take the speed bumps at around 10-15MPH in some of our cars and frequently have people 6 inches off my bumper revving their engines during that time. I've even been overtaken in Thames Ditton doing that, I then invariably catch up that same driver later on the journey. It's about appropriate speed as much as anything else I believe.
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8 years 5 months ago - 8 years 5 months ago #275 by tdres
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There are 20mph limit signs on every entrance route to the village - St Leonards Rd, Summer Rd, Embercourt Rd, Giggs Hill Green etc. They are very clear and obvious. Lack of knowledge is not the issue - some people just take no notice.
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8 years 5 months ago #274 by Frank
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I haven't seen any signs for 20mph, they should be more a lot more apparent.

Parking on corner of St.leonards are builders at the home of compassion, which is nearly finished but I've seen office workers park there too. Why don't we just to apply for yellow lines there.

There is still a problem of the high street, which needs passing points or be made one-way - there are couple of yellow lines but they need to be a lot bigger to be effective. The parking bays are effective.
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8 years 5 months ago #273 by tdres
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The speed limit through the whole of the village is 20mph and has been for many years.
A lot of drivers go much faster than this though and as there is no enforcement that I have ever seen then there is nothing to stop them. The speed bumps don't seem to cause any slowing down - just a heftier thump when the vehicles land the other side, especially lorries and other vehicles in the night.

A couple of sessions with a speed camera might put some of these rat runners off but I don't know who would be responsible for that.

The issue of residents parking bays and other related parking issues has been discussed many many times and a good solution never found - it just moves the problem somewhere else. EG - new parking bays on High Street = good. Parking on corner of St Leonards road as a result of new parking bays = not good, but legal apparently even though very obstructive! Which doesn't mean we should stop trying of course.

Car park virtually empty again today. Sigh.
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8 years 5 months ago #272 by Frank
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1. I thought you could not stop on double yellow lines, otherwise you are liable to get a ticket - singles are time permitted

2. I see this happening the whole time on station road

3. Perhaps 15miles is better throughout village, can this be sought??

4.i don't have a solution

5.i have seen one nor any tickets issued however new high street bays seem to work and it's very pleasant seeing no cars there especially outside HJC.

Commuters parking all day seem to be a problem and needs to be addressed, things are getting clogged up. Can we have residents parking bays?
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8 years 5 months ago #271 by craigvmax
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As it seems to be a little sparse on replies generally here these days I'll try. I preface with I may be wrong, just my thoughts and ramblings:

1. Can van unload on double yellow lines?
Loading and unloading is permitted on single and double yellow lines, provided you do not cause an obstruction and there is no loading ban

2. Can cars drive on kerbs, ie on station road
Driving on the pavement is contrary to Section 72 of the highways Act 1835. You can only drive across the pavement to access a driveway with a dropped kerb.

3. What is the driving speed for the high street 30MPH (although that is far too fast)

4. What is going to happen to commuter parking, with crossrail potentially coming and Hampton court station being redeveloped, things will get worse.
YES
5. Is there going to be a parking warden in the village
There already is one.
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8 years 5 months ago #270 by Frank
Rules of the road was created by Frank
Does anyone know, what's the rules are about the following, perhaps highways contact? (Are people breaking the law)

1. Can van unload on double yellow lines?
2. Can cars drive on kerbs, ie on station road
3. What is the driving speed for the high street
4. What is going to happen to commuter parking, with crossrail potentially coming and Hampton court station being redeveloped, things will get worse.
5. Is there going to be a parking warden in the village